fallout from "the gay bomb"
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metaphorgeInspired by the discussion here:
[Poll #1000850]
My thoughts: of course it is... with the use of extreme enough conditioning techniques, you can condition almost anyone into almost anything (note: this is not saying that it is necessarily easy or ethical to do so).
Making a statement such as "sexual orientation is not changeable" vastly oversimplifies the matrices of to whom and what and why we're attracted to an offensively cartoonish degree.
Just because something about a person can be altered does not mean that it should be.
I vehemently disagree with the tactic of defending equality for queer people on the grounds of "I was born this way, I can't help it." Why do we need to argue that we have justification to fuck whatever person in whatever way we choose as long as all parties are both consenting and qualified to give consent?
We don't need to apologize and we aren't broken. Our orientations don't have to be carved into our genes for us to get to be who we are. This is just the sort of essentialist thinking that is the root of almost all oppression.
I am not a victim of being queer.
Wow, OMFG, I made an LJ post with actual content.
[Poll #1000850]
My thoughts: of course it is... with the use of extreme enough conditioning techniques, you can condition almost anyone into almost anything (note: this is not saying that it is necessarily easy or ethical to do so).
Making a statement such as "sexual orientation is not changeable" vastly oversimplifies the matrices of to whom and what and why we're attracted to an offensively cartoonish degree.
Just because something about a person can be altered does not mean that it should be.
I vehemently disagree with the tactic of defending equality for queer people on the grounds of "I was born this way, I can't help it." Why do we need to argue that we have justification to fuck whatever person in whatever way we choose as long as all parties are both consenting and qualified to give consent?
We don't need to apologize and we aren't broken. Our orientations don't have to be carved into our genes for us to get to be who we are. This is just the sort of essentialist thinking that is the root of almost all oppression.
I am not a victim of being queer.
Wow, OMFG, I made an LJ post with actual content.
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i suppose i should read comments, but...
Date: 2007-06-12 03:26 am (UTC)orientation seems to imply something one orients oneself towards (or against, i suppose), and is therefore entirely mutable whenever one wishes to reorient oneself.
i know a lovely lovely lesbian couple, both of whom were once married to men. were they "secretly gay" before? were they "secretly bi?" are they really Not True Lesbians now because they were once married to (and presumably having sex with) men?
more importantly, do i care? i guess if i was a man trying to convince one of them to sleep with me, i would. but otherwise? not so much.
this comment brought to you by the letter: "buh?"