adult content flagging comes to LiveJournal: the POLL

[metaphorge]

(This poll relates directly to this previous entry.)
[Poll #1075683]
This is, of course, accepting that we have no idea as of yet how LJ-Abuse will handle such reports, nor how having your content or your entire journal flagged as "adult" will affect access to it by other LiveJournal users and the general public....

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[metaphorge.livejournal.com]

I don't really disagree with anything you're saying here, and I don't have an issue with discretionary warnings. However, I'm not willing to accept making any content I choose to publish in my personal LiveJournal contingent upon someone having to be an age-verified LJ member in order to view, which is the tack I expect that they'll take once this system is in place since this will force anyone (even those that are of legal age) who is not an LJ member to get an account to view such material. That's not what I'm paying LJ for.

It isn't like I'll delete my account, as I would still want to follow people who choose to continue to primarily blog here. Such a policy would, howeverm cause me to stop paying LJ for their services and drastically reassess what platform I wish to use for my personal internet publishing.

I also don't even want to think about how this is going to work with sundicated RSS/Atom feeds.

In sunmmary, I think this is an attaempt to address a problem that doesn't really exist and is just caving in to right-wing cencsorship group pressure. If Six Apart caves to this, I sincerely hope they go under, as they are forgetting who is buttering their bread.

[arethinn]

I also don't even want to think about how this is going to work with sundicated RSS/Atom feeds.

How do feeds work on posts with any security, now? Like friends-locked or private? I always assumed the feedbot (or whatever) was considered a non-logged-in user, so only public posts were broadcast, but I've never checked. If that's the case, though, then I imagine content-flagged posts would not get picked up by the feed either, because it is not a logged-in, age-verified user.

BTW, did you see Lupa's post of a reply she got from support explaining this a little more? It sounds like at the moment they would not be blocking content entirely, but interposing an interstitial page (whcih doesn't thrill me either), presumably with an age disclaimer/statement.

[metaphorge.livejournal.com]

How do feeds work on posts with any security, now? Like friends-locked or private? I always assumed the feedbot (or whatever) was considered a non-logged-in user, so only public posts were broadcast, but I've never checked.
That's mostly corect, unless the person creating the feed includes their log-in and password as explained at http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclecticism/2004/07/08/reading-protected-livejournal-entries-via-rss (hopefully that's not clear as mud, I'm very very tired at the moment and cannot think of better words to explain; if you need further clarification lmk).

If that's the case, though, then I imagine content-flagged posts would not get picked up by the feed either, because it is not a logged-in, age-verified user.

Who knows? I'm assuming LJ is most worried about "displaying unprotected adult content on their site", but that might be an incorrect assumption on my part.

BTW, did you see Lupa's post of a reply she got from support explaining this a little more? It sounds like at the moment they would not be blocking content entirely, but interposing an interstitial page (whcih doesn't thrill me either), presumably with an age disclaimer/statement

tyrsalvia briefly filled me in on it, I'll read up on it tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up.

[arethinn]

Or did you mean those LJ accounts that are themselves feeds from other places? I don't see why the mechanics would be any different than any other LJ -- the whole account could be flagged; people could report individual posts from it (ugh), although obviously they cannot be set at posting time by the "author". Obviously it doesn't affect the original blog or whatever from which the feed is coming. Hm. Could get entire things flagged when really it's only the occasional post, because there's no other way to do it, which would suck.

This whole thing is just made of fail. If it were *only* self-imposed then I would be fine with it (it's a "cover your own ass" tool if you want to use it that way). Letting others report stuff is just heinous.

There's also the problem that people often don't want to give out their birthdate online for privacy reasons, since birthdate is often used as identity verification for everything from "forgot your email password" to bank account info. I only started listing mine in my profile recently so that certain smutwriters would friend me back, and I still really don't like it.